Geordie
| Name | Geordie |
| Altname | Tyneside English, Newcastle English |
| States | England |
| Region | Tyneside |
| Familycolor | Indo-European |
| Fam2 | Germanic |
| Fam3 | West Germanic |
| Fam4 | North Sea Germanic |
| Fam5 | Anglo-Frisian |
| Fam6 | English |
| Fam7 | Northern English |
| Fam8 | Northumbrian dialect |
| Ancestor | Old English |
| Ancestor2 | Middle English |
| Image | ![]() |
| Imagescale | 1.15 |
| Imagecaption | Television presenters Ant and Dec are Geordies from Newcastle upon Tyne |
| Map | ![]() |
| Mapcaption | Map of the Tyneside built up area with Newcastle in red. |
Geordie (ˈdʒɔːrdi ) is a demonym and vernacular dialect characterising Newcastle-upon-Tyne and the wider Tyneside area of North East England.
The vernacular, also known as Tyneside English or Newcastle English in linguistics, is one of the major dialects of northern England. It developed as a variety of the old Northumbrian dialect.
As a regional nickname, applying the term is set by one's definition of or acceptance to being called a Geordie: it varies from supporters of Newcastle United Football Club, the city, Tyneside, Tyne-and-Wear and to North East England. People from the latter two wider areas are less likely to accept the term as applying to them.
The term has also been applied to the Geordie Schooner, glass traditionally used to serve Newcastle Brown Ale. It is often considered unintelligible to many other native English speakers. The Geordie dialect and identity are perceived as the "most attractive in England", according to a 2008 newspaper survey, amongst the British public and as working-class.
History
Like all English dialects, the Geordie dialect traces back to the Old English spoken by Anglo-Saxon settlers, initially employed by the ancient Brythons who fought Pictish invaders after the end of Roman rule in Britain in the 5th century. The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes who arrived became ascendant politically and culturally over the native British through subsequent migration from tribal homelands along the North Sea coast of mainland Europe. The Anglo-Saxon kingdoms that emerged in the Dark Ages spoke largely mutually intelligible varieties of what is now called Old English, each varying somewhat in phonology, morphology, syntax, and lexicon. In Northern England and the Scottish borders, then dominated by the kingdom of Northumbria, there developed a distinct Northumbrian Old English dialect, which preceded modern Geordie. The linguistic conservatism of Geordie means that poems by the Anglo-Saxon scholar the Venerable Bede can be translated more successfully into Geordie than into standard modern English.
The British Library points out that the Norse, who primarily lived south of the River Tees, affected the language in Yorkshire but not in regions to the north. This source adds that "the border skirmishes that broke out sporadically during the Middle Ages meant the River Tweed established itself as a significant northern barrier against Scottish influence". Today, many who speak the Geordie dialect use words such as gan ('go' – modern Dutch «gaan») and bairn ('child' – modern Danish «barn»), which "can still trace their roots right back to the Angles".
Geographical coverage
People
When referring to the people, as opposed to the dialect, dictionary definitions of a Geordie typically refer to a native or inhabitant of Newcastle upon Tyne, England, or its environs, an area that encompasses North Tyneside, Newcastle, South Tyneside and Gateshead. This area has a combined population of around 700,000, based on 2011 census-data.
The term itself, according to Brockett, originated from all the North East coal mines. The catchment area for the term "Geordie" can include Northumberland and County Durham or be confined to an area as small as the city of Newcastle upon Tyne and the metropolitan boroughs of Tyneside.
Scott Dobson, the author of the book Larn Yersel Geordie, once stated that his grandmother, who was brought up in Byker, thought the miners were the true Geordies. There is a theory the name comes from the Northumberland and Durham coal mines. Poems and songs written in this area in 1876 (according to the OED), speak of the "Geordie".
Dialect
Academics refer to the Geordie dialect as "Tyneside English".
According to the British Library, "Locals insist there are significant differences between Geordie and several other local dialects, such as Pitmatic and Mackem. Pitmatic is the dialect of the former mining areas in County Durham and around Ashington to the north of Newcastle upon Tyne, while Mackem is used locally to refer to the dialect of the city of Sunderland and the surrounding urban area of Wearside".
Etymology
A number of rival theories explain how the term Geordie came about, though all accept that it derives from a familiar diminutive form of the name George, "a very common name among the pitmen" (coal miners) in North East England; indeed, it was once the most popular name for eldest sons in the region.
One account traces the name to the times of the Jacobite Rebellion of 1715. The Jacobites declared that the natives of Newcastle were staunch supporters of the Hanoverian kings, whose first representative George I reigned (1714–1727) at the time of the 1715 rebellion. Newcastle contrasted with rural Northumberland, which largely supported the Jacobite cause. In this case, the term "Geordie" may have derived from the popular anti-Hanoverian song "Cam Ye O'er Frae France?", which calls the first Hanoverian king "Geordie Whelps", a play on "George the Guelph".
Another explanation for the name is that local miners in the northeast of England used Geordie safety lamps, designed by George Stephenson, known locally as "Geordie the engine-wright", in 1815 rather than the competing Davy lamps, designed about the same time by Humphry Davy and used in other mining communities. Using the chronological order of two John Trotter Brockett books, Geordie was given to North East pitmen; later he acknowledges that the pitmen also christened their Stephenson lamp Geordie.
Linguist Katie Wales also dates the term earlier than does the current Oxford English Dictionary; she observes that Geordy (or Geordie) was a common name given to coal-mine pitmen in ballads and songs of the region, noting that such usage turns up as early as 1793. It occurs in the titles of two songs by songwriter Joe Wilson: "Geordy, Haud the Bairn" and "Keep your Feet Still, Geordie". Citing such examples as the song "Geordy Black", written by Rowland Harrison of Gateshead, she contends that, as a consequence of popular culture, the miner and the keelman had become icons of the region in the 19th century, and "Geordie" was a label that "affectionately and proudly reflected this," replacing the earlier ballad emblem, the figure of Bob Crankie.
In the English Dialect Dictionary of 1900, Joseph Wright gave as his fourth definition of "Geordie": A man from Tyneside; a miner; a north-country collier vessel, quoting two sources from Northumberland, one from East Durham and one from Australia. The source from Durham stated: "In South Tyneside even, this name was applied to the Lower Tyneside men."
Newcastle publisher Frank Graham's Geordie Dictionary states:
In Graham's many years of research, the earliest record he found of the term's use dated to 1823 by local comedian Billy Purvis. Purvis had set up a booth at the Newcastle Races on the Town Moor. In an angry tirade against a rival showman, who had hired a young pitman called Tom Johnson to dress as a clown, Billy cried out to the clown:
(Rough translation: "Oh man, who but a fool would have sold off his furniture and left his wife? Now, you're a fair downright fool, not an artificial fool like Billy Purvis! You're a real Geordie! Go on, man, and hide yourself! Go on and get your picks axes again. You may do for the city, but never for the west end of our town!")
John Camden Hotten wrote in 1869: "Geordie, general term in Northumberland and Durham for a pitman, or coal-miner. Origin not known; the term has been in use more than a century." Using Hotten as a chronological reference, Geordie has been documented for at least years as a term related to Northumberland and County Durham.
The name Bad-weather Geordy applied to cockle sellers:
Travel writer Scott Dobson used the term "Geordieland" in a 1973 guidebook to refer collectively to Northumberland and Durham.
Linguistic surveys
The Survey of English Dialects included Earsdon and Heddon-on-the-Wall in its fieldwork, administering more than 1,000 questions to local informants.
The Linguistic Survey of Scotland included Cumberland and Northumberland (using historic boundaries) in its scope, collecting words through postal questionnaires. Tyneside sites included Cullercoats, Earsdon, Forest Hall, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne, Wallsend-on-Tyne and Whitley Bay.
Phonology
The phonemic notation used in this article is based on the set of symbols used by . Other scholars may use different transcriptions. Watt and Allen stated that there were approximately 800,000 people in the early 2000s who spoke this form of British English.
Tyneside English (TE) is spoken in Newcastle upon Tyne, a city of around 260,000 inhabitants in the far north of England, and in the conurbation stretching east and south of Newcastle along the valley of the River Tyne as far as the North Sea. The total population of this conurbation, which also subsumes Gateshead, Jarrow, North and South Shields, Whitley Bay, and Tynemouth, exceeds 800,000.
Consonants
Geordie consonants generally follow those of Received Pronunciation, with these unique characteristics as follows:
- /ɪŋ/ appearing in an unstressed final syllable of a word (such as in reading) is pronounced as ən (thus, reading is ˈɹiːdən).
- The Geordie accent does not use the glottal stop in a usual fashion. It is characterised by a unique type of glottal stops. /p, t, k/ can all be pronounced simultaneously with a glottal stop after them in Geordie, both at the end of a syllable and sometimes before a weak vowel.
- T-glottalisation, in which /t/ is realised by ʔ before a syllabic nasal (e.g., button as ˈbʊtʔn̩), in absolute final position (get as ɡɛtʔ), and whenever the /t/ is intervocalic so long as the latter vowel is not stressed (pity as ˈpɪtʔi).
- Glottaling in Geordie is known as 'pre-glottalisation', which is "an occlusion at the appropriate place of articulation and 'glottalisation', usually manifested as a short period of laryngealised voice before and/or after and often also during the stop gap". This type of glottal is unique to Tyneside English.
- Other voiceless stops, /p, k/, are glottally reinforced in medial position, and preaspirated in final position.
- The dialect is non-rhotic like most other dialects of England, with /r/ being realised most commonly as an alveolar approximant , although a labiodental realisation is additionally growing in prevalence among younger females. (This variant is also possible, albeit rarer, in the speech of older males.) Traditionally, intrusive R was not present in Geordie, with speakers instead glottalising between boundaries; however, it is present in newer varieties of the dialect.
- Yod-coalescence in both stressed and unstressed syllables (so that dew becomes dʒɵʊ).
- /l/ is traditionally clear in all contexts, meaning the velarised allophone is absent. However, modern accents may periodically use ɫ in syllable final positions, sometimes it may even be vocalised (as in bottle ˈbɒʔʊ).
Vowels
| unrounded | rounded | short | long | short | long | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Close | ||||||
| Close-mid | ||||||
| Open-mid | ||||||
| Open | () |
- Length
- For some speakers, vowel length alternates with vowel quality in a very similar way to the Scottish vowel length rule.
- Vowel length is phonemic for many speakers of Geordie, meaning that length is often the one and only phonetic difference between and (/ɛ/ and /ɛː/) or between and (/ɒ/ and /ɒː/). If older or traditional dialect forms are considered, (/a/) also has a phonemic long counterpart /aː/, which is mostly used in words spelled with , making minimal pairs such as tack /tak/ vs. talk /taːk/ (less broad Geordie pronunciation: /tɔːk/). Another appears as an allophone of /a/ before final voiced consonants in words such as lad laːd.
- Phonetic quality and phonemic incidence
- and , /iː, uː/, are typically somewhat closer than in other varieties in morphologically closed syllables; /uː/ is also less prone to fronting than in other varieties of BrE and its quality is rather close to the cardinal . However, younger women tend to use a central instead. In morphologically open syllables, and are realised as closing diphthongs ɵʊ. This creates minimal pairs such as freeze fɹiːz vs. frees fɹeiz and bruise ~ bɹʉːz (hereafter transcribed with for the sake of simplicity) vs. brews bɹɵʊz.
- The vowel is tense and is best analysed as belonging to the /iː/ phoneme.
- As with other Northern English varieties, Geordie lacks the – split, so that words like cut, up and luck have the same /ʊ/ phoneme as put, sugar and butcher. The typical phonetic realisation is unrounded , but it may be hypercorrected to among middle-class (especially female) speakers.
- The long close-mid vowels /eː, oː/, in and , may be realised as monophthongs in open syllables or as opening diphthongs ʊə in closed syllables. Alternatively, /eː/ can be a closing diphthong eɪ and /oː/ can be centralised to . The opening diphthongs are recessive, as younger speakers reject them in favour of the monophthongal ~ .
- Other, now archaic, realisations of /oː/ include in snow snaː and aʊ in soldiers ˈsaʊldʒɐz.
- Many female speakers merge /oː/ with /ɔː/, but the exact phonetic quality of the merged vowel is uncertain.
- , /øː/, may be phonetically or a higher, unrounded vowel . An RP-like vowel is also possible.
- In older broadest Geordie, merges with /ɔː/ to under the influence of a uvular that once followed it (when Geordie was still a rhotic dialect). The fact that the original /ɔː/ vowel is never hypercorrected to or suggests that either this merger was never categorical, or that speakers are unusually successful in sorting those vowels out again.
- The schwa /ə/ is often rather open (). It also tends to be longer in duration than the preceding stressed vowel, even if that vowel is phonologically long. Therefore, words such as water and meter are pronounced ˈwɔd̰ɐː and ˈmid̰ɐː. This feature is shared with the very conservative (Upper Crust) variety of Received Pronunciation.
- Words such as voices and ended have /ə/ in the second syllable (so /ˈvɔɪsəz, ˈɛndəd/), rather than the /ɪ/ of RP. That does not mean that Geordie has undergone the weak vowel merger because /ɪ/ can still be found in some unstressed syllables in place of the more usual /ə/. An example of that is the second syllable of seven /ˈsɛvɪn/, but it can also be pronounced with a simple schwa /ə/ instead. Certain weak forms also have /ɪ/ instead of /ə/; these include at /ɪt/ (homophonous with strong it), of /ɪv/ (nearly homophonous with if), as /ɪz/ (homophonous with strong is), can /kɪn/ and us /ɪz/ (again, homophonous with strong is).
- As in other Northern English dialects, the vowel is short /a/ in Geordie, thus there is no London-style trap–bath split. There are a small number of exceptions to this rule; for instance, half, master, plaster and sometimes also disaster are pronounced with the vowel /ɒː/.
- Some speakers unround , /ɒː/, to . Regardless of the rounding, the difference in backness between /ɒː/ and /a/ is very pronounced, a feature which Geordie shares with RP and some northern and midland cities such as Stoke-on-Trent and Derby, but not with the accents of the middle north.
- Older traditional Geordie does not always adhere to the same distributional patterns of vowels found in standard varieties of English. Examples of that include the words no and stone, which may be pronounced niː and stɪən, so with vowels that are best analysed as belonging to the /iː/ and /iə/ phonemes.
| Front | Central | Back | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Start point | Front | ɛɪ (aɪ) | iə | æʊ |
| Back | ɔɪ | uə |
- Diphthongs
- The second elements of and , /iə, uə/, are commonly as open as the typical Geordie realisation of /ə/ ().
- The first element of , /æʊ/, varies between , and . Traditionally, this whole vowel was a high monophthong (with town being pronounced close to RP toon) and this pronunciation can still be heard, as can a narrower diphthong əu (with town being pronounced close to RP tone).
- is /ɛɪ/, but Geordie speakers generally use a less common allophone for certain environments in accordance with the Scottish vowel length rule, äɪ, which has a longer, lower, and more back onset than the main allophone. Thus ɛɪ is used in words such as knife nɛɪf, whereas äɪ is used in knives näɪvz. For simplicity, both of them are written with in this article.
Vocabulary
The Geordie dialect shares similarities with other Northern English dialects, as well as with the Scots language (See Rowe 2007, 2009).
Dorfy, real name Dorothy Samuelson-Sandvid, was a noted Geordie dialect writer. In her column for the South Shields Gazette, Samuelson-Sandvid attests many samples of Geordie language usage, such as the nouns bairn ("child") and clarts ("mud"); the adjectives canny ("pleasant") and clag ("sticky"); and the imperative verb phrase howay ("hurry up!"; "come on!")
Howay is broadly comparable to the invocation "Come on!" or the French "Allez-y!" ("Go on!"). Examples of common use include Howay man!, meaning "come on" or "hurry up", Howay the lads! as a term of encouragement for a sports team for example (the players' tunnel at St James' Park has this phrase just above the entrance to the pitch), or Ho'way!? (with stress on the second syllable) expressing incredulity or disbelief. The literal opposite of this phrase is haddaway ("go away"); although not as common as howay, it is perhaps most commonly used in the phrase "Haddaway an' shite" (Tom Hadaway, Figure 5.2 Haddaway an' shite; 'Cursing like sleet blackening the buds, raging at the monk of Jarrow scribbling his morality and judgement into a book.').
Another word, divvie or divvy ("idiot"), seems to come from the Co-op dividend, or from the two Davy lamps (the more explosive Scotch Davy used in 1850, commission disapproved of its use in 1886 (inventor not known, nicknamed Scotch Davy probably given by miners after the Davy lamp was made perhaps by north east miners who used the Stephenson Lamp), and the later better designed Davy designed by Humphry Davy also called the Divvy.) As in a north east miner saying 'Marra, ye keep way from me if ye usin a divvy.' It seems the word divvie then translated to daft lad/lass. Perhaps coming from the fact one would be seen as foolish going down a mine with a Scotch Divvy when there are safer lamps available, like the Geordie, or the Davy.
The Geordie word netty, meaning a toilet and place of need and necessity for relief or bathroom, has an uncertain origin. However, some have theorised that it may come from slang used by Roman soldiers on Hadrian's Wall, which may have later become gabinetti in the Romance language Italian (such as in the Westoe Netty, the subject of a famous painting from Bob Olley). Gabinetto in Modern Italian actually derives from the French word cabinet, which can also have the meaning of "toilet" (cabinet d'aisances). Thus, another explanation would be that it comes from the Modern Italian plural form of the word gabinetti, though only a relatively small number of Italians have migrated to the North of England, mostly during the 19th century.
Some etymologists connect the word netty to the Modern English word needy. John Trotter Brockett, writing in 1829 in his A glossary of north country words..., claims that the etymon of netty (and its related form neddy) is the Modern English needy and need.
Bill Griffiths, in A Dictionary of North East Dialect, points to the earlier form, the Old English níd; he writes: "MS locates a possible early ex. "Robert Hovyngham sall make... at the other end of his house a knyttyng" York 1419, in which case the root could be OE níd 'necessary'". Another related word, nessy is thought (by Griffiths) to derive from the Modern English "necessary".
A poem called "Yam" narrated by author Douglas Kew demonstrates the usage of a number of Geordie words.
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- Urinal finds museum home, the urinals have linguistic distinction: the Geordie word "netty" for lavatory derives from Roman slang on Hadrian's Wall which became "gabinetto" in Italian, 8 October 2007, The Guardian, London, Martin, Wainwright, 4 April 2007
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